Recording

[susiejetman]

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I feel this subject must have been raised hundreds of times before, and is common sense to the experts, but can someone please advise-

If you are watching a programme, without pressing the record button to save it, and half way through, or at the end, you decide that you wish you had saved it for the future, can that still be done?

Thanks if anyone reads or replies,


Regards

Silvo

[Barry]

Rewind to the start of the programme and press record, a second press of the record button will allow you to change the end time.........or

Rather then use rewind, press play to bring up the time bar, and use the cursor left/right to navigate, then as before press record.

[susiejetman]

Rewind to the start of the programme and press record, a second press of the record button will allow you to change the end time.........or

Rather then use rewind, press play to bring up the time bar, and use the cursor left/right to navigate, then as before press record.[/b]


Thank you Barry, especially for such a quik response


Silvo

[NJThePSM]

Rewind to the start of the programme and press record, a second press of the record button will allow you to change the end time.........or

Rather then use rewind, press play to bring up the time bar, and use the cursor left/right to navigate, then as before press record.[/b]

So I take it there is some auto recording buffer? Where the Hummy is recording what you're watching all the time (so you can rewind). Couple of Qs on this:

1 - What's the capacity of this 'back ground' recording buffer (for rewind and retrospetive recording)? Meaning, if I'm near the end of a two hour film and I decide to RWD to the start will it go back that far?

2 - I take it that changing channel limits the RWD facility? Meaning you change over to a new channel, then choose RWD, I can it you can only RWD to the point you switched to that channel?

Thanks, N

[Martin Liddle]

So I take it there is some auto recording buffer? Where the Hummy is recording what you're watching all the time (so you can rewind). Couple of Qs on this:

1 - What's the capacity of this 'back ground' recording buffer (for rewind and retrospetive recording)? Meaning, if I'm near the end of a two hour film and I decide to RWD to the start will it go back that far?[/b]

There is a fixed amount of disk space reserved for the buffer. Because different channels and programmes transmit at different bit rates then the length of time is not easy to predict. 2 hours is typical but it could be closer to 1 hour for something transmitted in the highest quality.

2 - I take it that changing channel limits the RWD facility? Meaning you change over to a new channel, then choose RWD, I can it you can only RWD to the point you switched to that channel?[/b]

Correct.

[gunnergarp]

Having got to my hummy via a fusion (who's disk failed) and a matsui (who's scart output was v. poor quality) I experienced what these other boxes did with one touch recording.

In my view they are considerably more intelligent than the hummy in this. Pressing record whilst watching a program, caused the contents of the channel buffer (from the start of the current program, presumeably found by reference to the EPG) to be included at the front of the recording.

In my opinion this is much more logical ...why wouldn't you want the whole of the program recorded so that later you can watch it from the beginning if you choose. ...could this feature find it's way into a future upgrade? I know it's possible to do the equivalent now with the hummy, but it required a lot of manual intervention e.g. searching for the start of the program.

Or is there a better way of doing the same thing that I have not come across.

[Budski]

In my view they are considerably more intelligent than the hummy in this. Pressing record whilst watching a program, caused the contents of the channel buffer (from the start of the current program, presumeably found by reference to the EPG) to be included at the front of the recording.[/b]

So what happens on a fusion or matsui if you do a bit of channel surfing in the adverts? Does the buffer still remember the channel you were watching or do you record a record of the channels you surfed through?

[gunnergarp]

So what happens on a fusion or matsui if you do a bit of channel surfing in the adverts? Does the buffer still remember the channel you were watching or do you record a record of the channels you surfed through?[/b]

The buffer refreshes/restarts every time you change channel, but that's not a problem really. The reason I found the feature good was that quite often you'd start watching something, decide it's good but there is something else you need to do now, so you press record, when eventually you decide to go back to it, it's all there and you can reming yourself of the start.

I suppose if you want to surf but know you want this channel saved, you could press record and then surf.

[Budski]

The buffer refreshes/restarts every time you change channel, but that's not a problem really. The reason I found the feature good was that quite often you'd start watching something, decide it's good but there is something else you need to do now, so you press record, when eventually you decide to go back to it, it's all there and you can reming yourself of the start.

I suppose if you want to surf but know you want this channel saved, you could press record and then surf.[/b]

Interseting idea, I can see why you like that http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/goofy.gif

[marcdavis]

This is a personal thing but I wouldnt like to see the Humax buffer curtailed to half an hour max like on the Fusion. For me that would be a backward step now. On the humax if you press record it carries out the request. If you want to record the whole programme you can - on the fuson its up to 30 minutes which may not stretch back to the start of the programme required. Also, on the Humax you can record any one of the programmes contained in the 2 hour buffer, not just the current one as per the fusion. The Fusion wont record the whole programme, just the last 30 minutes of it. You cant press record at the point you want - it will always be the whatever is in the buffer for the current programme restricted to half an hour. I prefer the flexibility and that the user decides what it is they want.

[gunnergarp]

This is a personal thing but I wouldnt like to see the Humax buffer curtailed to half an hour max like on the Fusion. For me that would be a backward step now. On the humax if you press record it carries out the request. If you want to record the whole programme you can - on the fuson its up to 30 minutes which may not stretch back to the start of the programme required. Also, on the Humax you can record any one of the programmes contained in the 2 hour buffer, not just the current one as per the fusion. The Fusion wont record the whole programme, just the last 30 minutes of it. You cant press record at the point you want - it will always be the whatever is in the buffer for the current programme restricted to half an hour. I prefer the flexibility and that the user decides what it is they want.[/b]

As you point out it's to some degree matter of personal preference. And yes ther 30min was a limitation and 2 hours is better and I am not suggesting changing that.

I also agree that flexibility is good, but I think that the default operation, i.e. the thing that happens easiest should be the thing that you are most likely to want.

For me anyway, when I press record without searching the timeshift buffer I am most likely to want to save the whole of the current program. If I want to to record something else in the buffer, thats less often and more unusual and searching for the start first is worth the effort. I still get the flexibility.

Anyway interesting dsicussion - thanks.

[Budski]

I also agree that flexibility is good, but I think that the default operation, i.e. the thing that happens easiest should be the thing that you are most likely to want.

For me anyway, when I press record without searching the timeshift buffer I am most likely to want to save the whole of the current program. If I want to to record something else in the buffer, thats less often and more unusual and searching for the start first is worth the effort. I still get the flexibility.[/b]

As you say, its a personel choice. I prefer for it to 'record from this moment on', as it does at tghe moment, but would like it to autopad the end of the recording, instead of having to manually change the end time. The number of ends of programs my wife has missed in unbelievable. She has a total mental block about amending the finish time.

Other than that, she loves it, even though I had to fight tooth and nail to get it in the first place!!!! http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smartass.gif

[gunnergarp]

As you say, its a personel choice. I prefer for it to 'record from this moment on', as it does at tghe moment, but would like it to autopad the end of the recording, instead of having to manually change the end time. The number of ends of programs my wife has missed in unbelievable. She has a total mental block about amending the finish time.

Other than that, she loves it, even though I had to fight tooth and nail to get it in the first place!!!! http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smartass.gif[/b]
I suppose a reasonable compromise would be to have an easy way to find the start of the current program in the timeslip buffer, something that took you right to it, before you pressed record.

One method could be to enable the selection of current or already ended programs from the EPG, at the moment you can only select programs that have not yet started.

[Mr_Orange]

One method could be to enable the selection of current or already ended programs from the EPG, at the moment you can only select programs that have not yet started.[/b]

That's a very sensible and, I would think, workable solution.