Freeview Playback Specs

[rpcb61]

Am I right in saying that these are the specs for Freeview Playback in full

* Qualifies for Digital Tick Logo

* 1. EPG Available at all times

* 2. Minimum 8-day schedule data in EPG

* 3. EPG available within 10 seconds

* 4. EPG information immediately updated without user interaction

* 5. Can record video, audio, subtitles and audio description

* 6. Can identify multiple EIT events and record only the single programme (Such as film split by news)

* 7. Pause live TV for minimum 30 minutes

* 8. OTR recording function. Recording not delayed by requests for further user interaction

* 9. Record selection from EPG

* 10. When series programme is selected to record, recorder offers option to record series

* 11. When a programme has another associated with it, the recorder will also offer to record the associated programme

* 12. Sheduled recordings display showing minimum date, time and title

* 13. Series recordings display

* 14.Tracks schedule changes even in standby

* 15. Accuracy of recording - control for starting and stopping recording based on EIT.

* 16. Back to back events on same service do not register as a conflict

* 17. Alternate instance of programme may be used to resolve recording conflict

* 18. Recording capacity indicator

* 19. Runaway recordings prevented in case of EIT failure

* 20 FF and REV speeds of up to 16x

* 21.Chase playback

[Mr_Orange]

See this thread here: http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/index.php?...ic=4230&hl= (http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/index.php?showtopic=4230&hl=)

[rabid]

* 1. EPG Available at all times

* 3. EPG available within 10 seconds[/b]This is a little misleading. The document states "following initial acquisition" and "The recorder shall display EPG information as soon as it is received".

I love the sound of 6, 10, 11, 13, 15, 16... well, all of it really. http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

(NB: Didn't know where to respond, but perhaps a mod can merge the two threads if they see an issue)

[Barry]

This is a little misleading. The document states "following initial acquisition" and "The recorder shall display EPG information as soon as it is received".

I love the sound of 6, 10, 11, 13, 15, 16... well, all of it really. http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

(NB: Didn't know where to respond, but perhaps a mod can merge the two threads if they see an issue)[/b]


Unfortunately to understand exactly what some of the specification means you need access to the actual test suite document, which is not publically available.

Note the list at post #1 is from Aug/Sep 06 and is out of date....eg serial 20 is nonsense, there is no such requirement in the finalised specification.

[Barry]

There is now a more detailed guide to Freeview Playback in the FAQ section.

[grannygrunt]

There is now a more detailed guide to Freeview Playback in the FAQ section.[/b]
Thought you all might like to see the black version of the Freeview Playback PVR due out June 10th, there is also a silver one due out the same day

http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?P...36&cat=stb# (http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?ProdRef=10036&cat=stb#)

Looks good, but I see the price is now back to the original!

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[Barry]

Thought you all might like to see the black version of the Freeview Playback PVR due out June 10th, there is also a silver one due out the same day

http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?P...36&cat=stb# (http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?ProdRef=10036&cat=stb#)

Looks good, but I see the price is now back to the original!

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Exactly the same specification as the current model (ignoring typo re timer slots), note now called DTR instead of PVR.

Whether it will be available on the 10th with Freeview Playback software is questionable......I'll try and find out on Monday.

Once it is launched I'd expect to see some online retailers undercutting that price.

[grannygrunt]

Exactly the same specification as the current model (ignoring typo re timer slots), note now called DTR instead of PVR.

Whether it will be available on the 10th with Freeview Playback software is questionable......I'll try and find out on Monday.

Once it is launched I'd expect to see some online retailers undercutting that price.[/b] Barry if you look at the page in question properly it is called and I have copied it here, so it is not the same specs as it is Freeview Playback compatable! as follows


Humax PVR-9200TB
Twin tuner Freeview Playback 160GB DTR

Note Barry Twin Tuner Freeview Playback

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[Barry]

I stand by what I have already said in post #7

They are exactly the same specification as the current model, except one has had lick of paint.

The only reason they are described as Freeview Playback is because they MAY have the software currently under development installed at factory, where as current owners of a 9200T will have to wait for an OTA, and/or the software to appear on HCSA.

As I stated previously I will try and find out on Monday if they will be released on the 10th, and whay software will be on board.

Also it would be wise to point out we are only talking about Group 1 functions of the FP Specification initially, details of which are in the FAQ.

[grannygrunt]

I stand by what I have already said in post #7

They are exactly the same specification as the current model, except one has had lick of paint.

The only reason they are described as Freeview Playback is because they MAY have the software currently under development installed at factory, where as current owners of a 9200T will have to wait for an OTA, and/or the software to appear on HCSA.

As I stated previously I will try and find out on Monday if they will be released on the 10th, and whay software will be on board.

Also it would be wise to point out we are only talking about Group 1 functions of the FP Specification initially, details of which are in the FAQ.[/b] Barry I know that you and I beg to differ on this, you because of what you are being told, me because using my feminine intuition, I have had to ask myself these questions since last year, when we first heard of the Freeview Playback specs, and that Humax were going to be one of the first manufacturers to have 'Freeview Playback compatable PVR's out.

1. Why is a major manufacturer launching two new versions, when their best selling model is out and they could just update that???
2. Why has it taken so long (since last year,or at least xmas) for us to get an update for the 9200t, and don't quote the 'well ordinary people won't know to do a reset, because what is wrong with incorporating a full factory reset into the OTA update??? In other words, download the software, and have it automatically reset the machine?? Or are you saying this isn't possible??
3. I am not a Hummy hater, I owned their 8000 single tuner before the 9200t and I love their UI but, Barry, they are not perfect!! The 9200t was launched to my horror with all the problems that we 8000 owners had complained about such as the EPG taking an age to load instead of being always accessable, the only 20 timers for recordings, why??? They knew that owners wanted these changing in the 8000, so why replicate them in the 9200???

I love the Humax Barry, and have owned one for far longer than you, all I am questioning is that our version can be updated to 'Freeview Playback' specs, that's all, and obviously I shall be delighted to be proved wrong!!

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[Barry]

1. They are not launching 2 new versions, they are launching the same version, one black, with MAYBE updated software so it comforms to the FP Specification..note the model number is still 9200.

2. Why has it taken so long......well I am not going to second guess what the engineers can and cannot do......but, when V10 was released it was envisaged that changes to include FP functions would be along shortly after that. However there were numerous delays in suppling the manufacturers with the necessary test documentaion, and streams...indeed the documentation has been revised numerous times, the last being Mid April (I checked this on Friday).

3. I to was astonished to find that the 9200T was launched with the limitations as you state.

Don't think you have owned either the 8000T or the 9200T as long as me, had them both on the first Day of release in the UK.....indeed you partook in the thread that I started on DS 20 Oct 2005......when myself and Marc tried to answer very many questions that prosective purchasers wanted answers to.



I am only trying to put my slant on the subject, yes I have very good contacts with Humax, and speak with them regularly. At the same time I do not want members misled into thinking that the product they have spent their hard earned cash on is now superceded....it is not..we will get an update, as to when I do not know, but rest assured I will post the info when it is available.

If we can leave it there for now...I will get more info on Monday re the launch of the Black version, and what software it is likely to come with (thats of course if they will tell me)

[grannygrunt]

1. They are not launching 2 new versions, they are launching the same version, one black, with MAYBE updated software so it comforms to the FP Specification..note the model number is still 9200.

2. Why has it taken so long......well I am not going to second guess what the engineers can and cannot do......but, when V10 was released it was envisaged that changes to include FP functions would be along shortly after that. However there were numerous delays in suppling the manufacturers with the necessary test documentaion, and streams...indeed the documentation has been revised numerous times, the last being Mid April (I checked this on Friday).

3. I to was astonished to find that the 9200T was launched with the limitations as you state.

Don't think you have owned either the 8000T or the 9200T as long as me, had them both on the first Day of release in the UK.....indeed you partook in the thread that I started on DS 20 Oct 2005......when myself and Marc tried to answer very many questions that prosective purchasers wanted answers to.
I am only trying to put my slant on the subject, yes I have very good contacts with Humax, and speak with them regularly. At the same time I do not want members misled into thinking that the product they have spent their hard earned cash on is now superceded....it is not..we will get an update, as to when I do not know, but rest assured I will post the info when it is available.

If we can leave it there for now...I will get more info on Monday re the launch of the Black version, and what software it is likely to come with (thats of course if they will tell me)[/b] Okay then Barry we will wait and see, but I do think that Humax are in a lot of trouble if they release a PVR stating and calling it (as they have on their website) Freeview Playback, if it then does not comply!!

GG

[keithatrochdale]

Okay then Barry we will wait and see, but I do think that Humax are in a lot of trouble if they release a PVR stating and calling it (as they have on their website) Freeview Playback, if it then does not comply!!

GG[/b]

They could be in trouble if they release it with new software too - after all the cock ups with past software we could be in for big, big problems!

[Barry]

Okay then Barry we will wait and see, but I do think that Humax are in a lot of trouble if they release a PVR stating and calling it (as they have on their website) Freeview Playback, if it then does not comply!!

GG[/b]


Thats why I'll check it out on Monday...could be someone has jumped the gun.

[pr94979]

Thats why I'll check it out on Monday...could be someone has jumped the gun.[/b]
Although I accept the Freeview Playback specs doind the rounds are genuine, Freeview's own public statement defining Freeview Playback: http://www.freeviewplayback.co.uk/ doesn't mention anything that the Hummy can't already do.

Maybe the Freeview Playback standard will be enhanced as and when manufacturers are able to develop machines/software that can meet the standard. Until then, my own interpretation (For What Its Worth), is that Freeview Playback will just be a marketing tag for PVRs with a Freeview tuner.

[rabid]

1. Why is a major manufacturer launching two new versions, when their best selling model is out and they could just update that???[/b]OK, Barry says it's one, I have no idea, bu the simple answer is: Marketing.

With the introduction of Freeview Playback Humax need to catch attention by releasing a new model that has Freeview Playback plastered all over it.

[Barry]

I've had a word with a contact at Humax.....they will update this thread later.

[grannygrunt]

I've had a word with a contact at Humax.....they will update this thread later.[/b] Humax website now has been updated with the Freeview Playback logo, which if it going to be released without the Freeview specs will surely get Humax into trouble. See here

http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?P...36&cat=stb# (http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?ProdRef=10036&cat=stb#)

So the software must be updated inside it.

GG

[Barry]

Humax website now has been updated with the Freeview Playback logo, which if it going to be released without the Freeview specs will surely get Humax into trouble. See here

http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?P...36&cat=stb# (http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?ProdRef=10036&cat=stb#)

So the software must be updated inside it.

GG[/b]


Yep they updated that when they updated the typo re number of timers.

[marcdavis]

Humax website now has been updated with the Freeview Playback logo, which if it going to be released without the Freeview specs will surely get Humax into trouble. See here

http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?P...36&cat=stb# (http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?ProdRef=10036&cat=stb#)

So the software must be updated inside it.

GG[/b]

Hi GG. Thats what I've tried to say on the forums. The Freeview Playback machine will come out in black. Humax want to release it for Freeview launch of Freeview Playback which I think is the 11th of June. I guess they think they can achieve that, but I also think we'll know nearer the time as to whether they hit any delays with its release in the shops. I quite like the look of the PVR with just the colour changing - would go quite nicely with my black fronted JVC tv.

[keithatrochdale]

A software update is NOT available on HCSA, if they are providing units for shipping, then the software must be available now, why the delay releasing it on HCSA?

[MRb]

Well the black Humax looks awful in my eyes.

Regarding series link my how thats gonna p some sky digital owners orf, as everytime I hear them boasting bout there machines they always mention series link http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angelic.gif

[marcdavis]

A software update is NOT available on HCSA, if they are providing units for shipping, then the software must be available now, why the delay releasing it on HCSA?[/b]


It might not be ready and also that might mean the the Freeview Playback model in black gets delayed too.

It might be because Humax wont make software updates available online until it is broadcast over the air due to complaints they received from mac users.

Cant rule out what Humax said either about the OTA and software update being made available to everyone else for Freeview Playback might include the series link stuff contained in group 2 specifications. According to their post that is. You've probably seen my post for the user looking to buy in July and I basically said thats what could happen. I'm more interested in series link than pdc on freeview to be honest so I'm hoping our OTA will be all the group 2 stuff.

[grannygrunt]

Hi GG. Thats what I've tried to say on the forums. The Freeview Playback machine will come out in black. Humax want to release it for Freeview launch of Freeview Playback which I think is the 11th of June. I guess they think they can achieve that, but I also think we'll know nearer the time as to whether they hit any delays with its release in the shops. I quite like the look of the PVR with just the colour changing - would go quite nicely with my black fronted JVC tv.[/b] yes agree marc, it does look good in Black, I too am very tempted to update to the Black model especially with the bonus of Freeview Playback specifications on board!! It is very tempting!!

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[marcdavis]

yes agree marc, it does look good in Black, I too am very tempted to update to the Black model especially with the bonus of Freeview Playback specifications on board!! It is very tempting!!

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Mind you this freeview playback branded 9200t has only got accurate recording added so I think theres nothing to get excited about. As some posted have commented on, pdc is a bit crap and has various limitations. I can see autopadding staying on I'm afraid unless all the roadcasters support it. Series link and all the other stuff in group 2 of the Freeview Playback specification is the only thing worth wanting and thats for a later update that will go over the top of the Freeview Playback branded 9200t via an OTA later.

[grannygrunt]

Hi GG. Thats what I've tried to say on the forums. The Freeview Playback machine will come out in black. Humax want to release it for Freeview launch of Freeview Playback which I think is the 11th of June. I guess they think they can achieve that, but I also think we'll know nearer the time as to whether they hit any delays with its release in the shops. I quite like the look of the PVR with just the colour changing - would go quite nicely with my black fronted JVC tv.[/b]
Yes it does look good marc, I am tempted, especially as the Freeview Playback specs are on board!! Pity that it has gone up in price though!!!

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[marcdavis]

Yes it does look good marc, I am tempted, especially as the Freeview Playback specs are on board!! Pity that it has gone up in price though!!!

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I think humax retail site has always been selling the 9200t at the recommended retail price of £229 and as the black version is still the 9200t with software update that should be the same. I'd expect high street to be about £200 and a bunch of online retailers somewhere between £170 and £200 as they do now, although watch out for some putting a slight premium on the new black version just because its new and all the Freeview Playback free advertising by Freeview http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[Barry]

Hughes Direct (http://www.hughesdirect.co.uk/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=HUM-PVR9200TB)

Cheapest I have found so far......

[mike]

From what i know the Freeview Playback version and the silver version (current PVR9200T) are both going to be sold as they are.

There will be no silver Freeview Playback released and i am sure they are working on a new software update to make the silver one work with it.

The black one will be available as standard with Freeview Playback http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif Which is a good thing it doesnt mean that the current PVR9200T will be useless....

[mike]

Hughes Direct (http://www.hughesdirect.co.uk/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=HUM-PVR9200TB)

Cheapest I have found so far......[/b]

Unfortunately you can advertise any price when you don't have it in stock http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif

[Barry]

Unfortunately you can advertise any price when you don't have it in stock http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif[/b]


Yeah I realise that....a good old DSG trick.....but as no one has stock, just yet http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[grannygrunt]

Mind you this freeview playback branded 9200t has only got accurate recording added so I think theres nothing to get excited about. As some posted have commented on, pdc is a bit crap and has various limitations. I can see autopadding staying on I'm afraid unless all the roadcasters support it. Series link and all the other stuff in group 2 of the Freeview Playback specification is the only thing worth wanting and thats for a later update that will go over the top of the Freeview Playback branded 9200t via an OTA later.[/b] It's something for me to get excited about marc, I don't do padding, never have seen the need for it, so accurate recording is a bonus, plus the Series Link facility in Stage 2. This is brill, as I have already made use of it with the TUTV Anytime box, which incidentally works with most channels!!!

GG

[grannygrunt]

I've had a word with a contact at Humax.....they will update this thread later.[/b] Barry, thought you said that someone from Humax was going to update this thread about the new Freeview Playback specified 9200's being released shortly???

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[keithatrochdale]

You get used to broken promises from Humax ......

[killerbee]

Hi folks,

First time poster on here, so apologies in advance for any newbie-type mistakes! http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/surprised.gif

Just wondering if there's any news about Humax updating the firmware on the silver model PVRs - I recently ordered a silver 9200T (my first Hummy!) from Empire Direct (PVR9200T-SIL (http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/content/products/details/index~modelcode~HUM-PVR9200T-SIL.htm)) in the hope that (1) it'd be the new updated model with the Freeview Playback firmware pre-loaded; and (2) that I'd get it sooner than if I waited for the Black one to be launched.

Reading the posts above, it seems that only the Black model has Freeview Playback compatibility?

Unfortunately, Empire have recently put their prices up (my order for the silver is confirmed at £169.99) so I don't really want to cancel and re-order (and to be honest, I prefer the silver to the black anyway).

I appreciate that even if I get the "old" 9200T I should be able to update the firmware OTA at some point in the future, but does anyone know if Humax are intending to start shipping silver 9200Ts with the Freeview Playback firmware on board? Empire are out of stock of both models at the moment, so I'm a bit in limbo!

Thanks for your help!

KB

[grannygrunt]

Hi folks,

First time poster on here, so apologies in advance for any newbie-type mistakes! http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/surprised.gif

Just wondering if there's any news about Humax updating the firmware on the silver model PVRs - I recently ordered a silver 9200T (my first Hummy!) from Empire Direct (PVR9200T-SIL (http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/content/products/details/index~modelcode~HUM-PVR9200T-SIL.htm)) in the hope that (1) it'd be the new updated model with the Freeview Playback firmware pre-loaded; and (2) that I'd get it sooner than if I waited for the Black one to be launched.

Reading the posts above, it seems that only the Black model has Freeview Playback compatibility?

Unfortunately, Empire have recently put their prices up (my order for the silver is confirmed at £169.99) so I don't really want to cancel and re-order (and to be honest, I prefer the silver to the black anyway).

I appreciate that even if I get the "old" 9200T I should be able to update the firmware OTA at some point in the future, but does anyone know if Humax are intending to start shipping silver 9200Ts with the Freeview Playback firmware on board? Empire are out of stock of both models at the moment, so I'm a bit in limbo!

Thanks for your help!

KB[/b] I rang Empire Direct yesterday to ask them about the new 9200t-sil, and they assured me that it will have the Freeview Playback on board like the black version. although they admit they might not get it in stock till after 10th June, so speak to them, they will be happy to put your mind at rest!!

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[killerbee]

I rang Empire Direct yesterday to ask them about the new 9200t-sil, and they assured me that it will have the Freeview Playback on board like the black version. although they admit they might not get it in stock till after 10th June, so speak to them, they will be happy to put your mind at rest!!

GG http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheerful.gif[/b]

Cool. Thanks GG. http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/content.gif

I wonder if they'll let me change colour without having to pay the higher price...

[XAMUH]

From late this week / early next week the PVR-9200T models will be available which have been tested by the DTG and comply with Freeview Playback (Group 1).

We will have 2 models released:

PVR-9200T/B - black version
PVR-9200T/S - silver version (same as current model)

Both of these models have the same software, and the software will also be available to customer who already own a PVR-9200T.

The HCSA release will be later this month
OTA date to be available after Freeview Playback Group 2 has been implemented, this is currently scheduled for early July, however I will update closer to the time with more definate dates.

Thanks

Humax Customer Support

[grannygrunt]

From late this week / early next week the PVR-9200T models will be available which have been tested by the DTG and comply with Freeview Playback (Group 1).

We will have 2 models released:

PVR-9200T/B - black version
PVR-9200T/S - silver version (same as current model)

Both of these models have the same software, and the software will also be available to customer who already own a PVR-9200T.

The HCSA release will be later this month
OTA date to be available after Freeview Playback Group 2 has been implemented, this is currently scheduled for early July, however I will update closer to the time with more definate dates.

Thanks

Humax Customer Support[/b] Thank you Humax for at last putting an end to this disagreement about the two new models which are Freeview Playback compatable and are being released next week! I am really pleased that you have clarified the situation for us, and proved that you are releasing a silver 'Freeview Playback' specified PVR at the same time as the Black 'Freeview Playback' specified PVR!! ( I don't suppose there will be any apologies coming my way though!!!)

GG Thanks again, Humax, I am tempted to upgrade to the black version!!

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[killerbee]

From late this week / early next week the PVR-9200T models will be available which have been tested by the DTG and comply with Freeview Playback (Group 1).

We will have 2 models released:

PVR-9200T/B - black version
PVR-9200T/S - silver version (same as current model)

Both of these models have the same software, and the software will also be available to customer who already own a PVR-9200T.

The HCSA release will be later this month
OTA date to be available after Freeview Playback Group 2 has been implemented, this is currently scheduled for early July, however I will update closer to the time with more definate dates.

Thanks

Humax Customer Support[/b]

Thanks for that Humax - exactly what I wanted to hear.

[XAMUH]

Thank you Humax for at last putting an end to this disagreement about the two new models which are Freeview Playback compatable and are being released next week! I am really pleased that you have clarified the situation for us, and proved that you are releasing a silver 'Freeview Playback' specified PVR at the same time as the Black 'Freeview Playback' specified PVR!! ( I don't suppose there will be any apologies coming my way though!!!)

GG Thanks again, Humax, I am tempted to upgrade to the black version!!

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Hi grannygrunt,

The silver version was only a recent addition to be added with Freeview Playback. Originally the black version was only going to be available; however after sourcing more stock of the components for the Silver version and retailers requesting they would like both models available we have gone ahead. However I cannot confirm that the silver version will run long term, it may depend on the demand for them.

Thanks

Humax

[ukdood]

however after sourcing more stock of the components for the Silver version[/b]

So it is different internals to my 6 month old Silver 9200?

Regards

UKdood

[marcdavis]

GG Thanks again, Humax, I am tempted to upgrade to the black version!![/b]

Isnt your TUTV Anytime PVR already black?

[XAMUH]

So it is different internals to my 6 month old Silver 9200?

Regards

UKdood[/b]

No, all hardware is identical. Only casing and giftbox are different.

[marcdavis]

So it is different internals to my 6 month old Silver 9200?[/b]

I was wondering that too

[Mr_Orange]

From late this week / early next week the PVR-9200T models will be available which have been tested by the DTG and comply with Freeview Playback (Group 1).

We will have 2 models released:

PVR-9200T/B - black version
PVR-9200T/S - silver version (same as current model)

Both of these models have the same software, and the software will also be available to customer who already own a PVR-9200T.

The HCSA release will be later this month
OTA date to be available after Freeview Playback Group 2 has been implemented, this is currently scheduled for early July, however I will update closer to the time with more definate dates.

Thanks

Humax Customer Support[/b]

Great news about the HSCA release, thank you HUMAX. Are you able to confirm if WDN4OAK has been updated to work with Windows Vista, specifically the 64 bit versions?

[grannygrunt]

Hi grannygrunt,

The silver version was only a recent addition to be added with Freeview Playback. Originally the black version was only going to be available; however after sourcing more stock of the components for the Silver version and retailers requesting they would like both models available we have gone ahead. However I cannot confirm that the silver version will run long term, it may depend on the demand for them.

Thanks

Humax[/b] Thank you very much for that additional information Humax, although it sounds like you are expecting everyone to go over to the black version, I think that it is nice to have both on offer to customers, as not everyone are 'early adopters' of Av equipment as we are, and many buyers might still have a lot of grey/silver equipment. Just wish that you had lowered the price a bit though!!!!!

Yours GG http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angelic.gif

[rabid]

Good to know that our Hummy's internals are still state of the art. http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

I certainly won't be tempted to upgrade.

[keithatrochdale]

From late this week / early next week the PVR-9200T models will be available which have been tested by the DTG and comply with Freeview Playback (Group 1).

We will have 2 models released:

PVR-9200T/B - black version
PVR-9200T/S - silver version (same as current model)

Both of these models have the same software, and the software will also be available to customer who already own a PVR-9200T.

The HCSA release will be later this month
OTA date to be available after Freeview Playback Group 2 has been implemented, this is currently scheduled for early July, however I will update closer to the time with more definate dates.

Thanks

Humax Customer Support[/b]

Why do we have to wait for it to be released on the HCSA site? Surely if you are distributing hardware with it in now it can also be released now?

Does it correct any of the many faults that are in Ver.10?

[Barry]

Great news about the HSCA release, thank you HUMAX. Are you able to confirm if WDN4OAK has been updated to work with Windows Vista, specifically the 64 bit versions?[/b]


You are probably aware that a few of us use Vista 32Bit with WDN4OAK, and have had no problems. As for the 64Bit version it has not been updated to work with it.

[Barry]

Why do we have to wait for it to be released on the HCSA site? Surely if you are distributing hardware with it in now it can also be released now?

Does it correct any of the many faults that are in Ver.10?[/b]


The release candidate is yet to be compiled into the HDF file needed for distribution via the HCSA.

Fixes....I think it is mentioned somewhere that the PIP problem when watching a recording using HDD space is fixed, and also the not so obvious problem with the Find function...using it in a certain way caused the loss of your scheduled recordings list.

[keithatrochdale]

The release candidate is yet to be compiled into the HDF file needed for distribution via the HCSA.

Fixes....I think it is mentioned somewhere that the PIP problem when watching a recording using HDD space is fixed, and also the not so obvious problem with the Find function...using it in a certain way caused the loss of your scheduled recordings list.[/b]

Hmm, that would take a long time to compile ............. not

What about autopadding and clock changes?

And I won't even bother mentioning the USB problems.

[Barry]

Hmm, that would take a long time to compile ............. not

What about autopadding and clock changes?

And I won't even bother mentioning the USB problems.[/b]

Dunno how long......ex hardware man not software....but don't shoot the messenger eh

Clock changes, well to conform to FP Group 1 that has to have been sorted, and as it has gone through DTG testing......but we won't get a users opinion on this until later in the Year.

Autopad....dunno what fixes you envisaged.

USB Problems, been discussed more times than I care to remember....but then again, when I have had to use it, it worked (as long as I use a short USB cable - 3m)

[autumcolours]

Thanks for that Humax - exactly what I wanted to hear.[/b]So after all the hoo-ha we have two colours with both being able to take the same software. Think someone at Humax is a great wind up merchant !!!!!! or it was all a cynical marketing ploy.

[marcdavis]

So after all the hoo-ha we have two colours with both being able to take the same software. Think someone at Humax is a great wind up merchant !!!!!! or it was all a cynical marketing ploy.[/b]

I havent seen any marketing by Humax at all yet and have no idea on what media they will place it on when they do. A TV commercial would be good though. Going on what people have been talking about on our site it would apear the additonal option of black, in keeping with current trends, would be more a wise move rather than cynical.

As for the software update, looking forward to series link now. i think that will be the one out of the lot that is really worth having tbh.

[jxp]

Autopad....dunno what fixes you envisaged.[/b]

Isn't missed recordings related to Auto padding (set two recordings at 9:00pm, thne one at 8-9pm, one of the 9pm recordings is missed)?

Also is truncated programme names related to Auto padding (you only get 17 chars saved instead of 42)?

[grannygrunt]

Isnt your TUTV Anytime PVR already black?[/b] The TopUp TV Anytime box isn't mine marc, its my daughters (mad on UK Gold) she originally had the Humax until all the TUTV changes,and so updated her to the Anytime box, and I have the Humax now installed in the living room (alongside the shiny black Playstation3) so the black version will go very nicely, trouble is it will then set me off wanting and longing for that shiny Samsung TV I have seen in the shiny Piano black!!) So if any manufacturer changes colours again after that, they have had it!! I am always skint!!

GG (by the way marc, if we do get the software update on the website I still have the set up stuff, you know the little disc and the connections, but I am now using Vista, and have completely forgotten how to do any of it, so if they do put it on the website, will be enlisting your help no doubt (unless I get the black one!)

GG http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/content.gif http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angelic.gif p.s Thanks for the apology Barry, knew you would! http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angelic.gif

[Barry]

GG http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/content.gif http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angelic.gif p.s Thanks for the apology Barry, knew you would! http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angelic.gif[/b]


Still seeing things that arn't there then..

[grannygrunt]

I havent seen any marketing by Humax at all yet and have no idea on what media they will place it on when they do. A TV commercial would be good though. Going on what people have been talking about on our site it would apear the additonal option of black, in keeping with current trends, would be more a wise move rather than cynical.

As for the software update, looking forward to series link now. i think that will be the one out of the lot that is really worth having tbh.[/b] You are right marc, my daughters TUTV Anytime box is brill now, and funnily enough, it seems to work with quite a lot of the different channels! I love it because it saves you even going into the recording set up and setting such as daily, weekly, etc. (Aren't I getting lazy!) So say I was setting 'Midsomer Murders' I choose one edition, and it comes up with 'this program has a series link, would you like to save 1. just this program, or 2. the whole series (or words to that affect) so it really is useful, once you have it, you'll wonder how you managed without!!!!

GG http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/content.gif

[FenderBender]

I have closed this topic as I believe it has run its course. The thread has been taken off topic a number of times, and some posts caused confusion among members. We are grateful to Humax for clarifying the issues.

Our FAQ section has clear details of what will be included in the Freeview Playback specifications. Click here (http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/index.php?showtopic=4519) for the FAQ. In particular, I would draw members attention to the detail about EPG Scope and Accuracy.